Imaging machines across a lan

Category: Geeks r Us

Post 1 by Squiggles (Account disabled) on Monday, 17-Sep-2007 22:54:07

Since I am now in my cisco networking class, the students who have access to the novell server are able to image all the machines. They do this by deploying the image of xp onto all the machines. However, novell is not accessible, I've been there done that. The process in which they image the machines is:

they place a disk in the disk drive
they boot, and it grabs the image
it finishes

This disk is a novell cd, however I was told that I could occomplish basically the same thing with Norton ghost, however I'm unsure how accessible the imaging process would be. If I made a .img image of xp, and had norton ghost cast on my 2k3 box, how would I deploy that image to all my machines on my lan? Would I have to boot from some sort of a live cd that comes with norton, or would I have to use magic packets to wake the machines on the lan? Anyone have some good ideas? I really hope I am able to do this, at least with norton ghost. I understand Novell is inaccessible no matter how you cut it.

Post 2 by Texas Shawn (The cute, cuddley, little furr ball) on Tuesday, 18-Sep-2007 6:23:24

Hell, your doing all that in a Cisco class? damn, that is creative but I would thing beyond the scope of the course. we never had to do that sort of thing, unless like I said its more for the heck of it.

I don't know for sure, but vmware might have a novell image. the roman battle mask would know more, maybe if he returns we can find out. grin

I've taken all the cisco CCNA classes, I guess I really need to get my butt in gear and start studying for the exams.

Post 3 by b3n (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Tuesday, 18-Sep-2007 13:59:19

My SCHOOL TECH USES GHOST - I'LL ASK HIM HOW ACCESSABLE HE THINKS IT WOULD BE TMOZ - ITS PRETTY COOL, IT DOES LIKE A 6 GIG IMAGE IN ABOUT 7 MINUTES BUT THAT IS THROUGH USB LOL.
i FOUND A FEW LINKS THOUGH
http://www.windowsdream.com/ping.html
This is a substitute to ghost and is free and based on lfs - dunno if its commandline or gui or if you could get it talking.
Also i no your banking on alot of things beeing found like nics, but could you in thirey start the setup process from dos? So you could justmake a batch to do this so if you could then that would be handy.
However that consontrates more on an installation rather than deploying an image which would defenetly be more practical but i dunno if you could do that for your cisco.
http://www.doitrightconsulting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=182
This tool is meant to help you out doing a ris (remote installation server) - dunno though, I just found it.
and lastly
http://www.msfn.org/board/Unattended_RIS_Installation_f127.html
This forum is basicly the best place on the net to talk about all different types of installation - you'll probably be posting to it.

I think you should find out if you have to deploy an image or if you can setup a ris which to the end user isn't going to make any difference but the process of creating an image is obveously different to creating a unattended installation file fora ris.
As I said, join msfn and read there unattended guide but its geared moe towoards a local unattended installation.
You should also probably read /support/tools/deploy.cab/deploy.chm and /support/tools/deploy.cab/reference.chm, both of which can be found on your xp pro cd.

One thing worth noting is bart pe - don't waste any time with it - it doesn't support sound drivers.
Have you considered building a custom win pe 2.0 image? This is a commandline live cd that you can get the base for from microsoft and then you just build it with what ever sources you want and then compile all through the commandline, its free.

I can't say that xp inbedded is a really good operating system and that you can get it to talk and that it would be the answer to all your problems and that the only thing thats stopping you from running it on a non inbedded system is its eula because its illegal.
I lol'd at the fact that everyone else can use nix based stuff and you can't.
Also, that doesn't come uder the ccna does it?
Fyi, I've been doing unattended installs for neally 1.5 years now and i've made a multiboot dvd for are school with slipstreamed drivers, intergreated updates and software all unattendedly so if you get stuck with a ua install then just pm me.
Hth.

Post 4 by Squiggles (Account disabled) on Tuesday, 18-Sep-2007 20:12:41

Cisco really has nothing to do with what I'm doing. I don't want to do an unattended install. I just want to take an image of a clean install, install my aps, fire up a ghosting program and then blasting it out to my machines. As I said, I don't know how I would go about blasting the image out would be and how accessible it would be. I talked to a friend and he says I would need to boot froma cd and then grab the image form a remote server across the lan. Maybe i could boot with say grml and then grab the image and then get it form thee and put it on the drive. I wouldn't be doing a full install install on each machine,m I would just be putting an image on. there would be no installation at all.

Post 5 by b3n (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Wednesday, 19-Sep-2007 11:02:39

There are applications that make erforming a unattended install over lan muchmore easeyer than rowling out an image for a blind person.
Granted, an image would take less time to ddeploy, but you would have to have one image per pc so ruffly 2gb per pc where as you could probably do a 650 unattended install over lan fine.
Thi, if you set up a ris on your 2k3 and then set pc's to oot of lan and then it would be sorted.

Post 6 by Squiggles (Account disabled) on Thursday, 20-Sep-2007 17:53:58

I've already said i want to do no installs. I want 1 image and 1 image only. no ris. If I have 1 image and then set bios to boot off lan would I specify the ip and directory where to grab the image? and what format does it have to be in? and what program do you recommend using like nrton ghost? Does this mean i can set the bios to do this and then whipe all the drives on my machines then i reboot and then let it boot from the iamge on the 2k3 server, then does it load the os onto the harddrive? Will it stay on the drive until I change the image, then boot from lan and then it loads the new os on the hard drive? And so i'd have to have several images for all my machines, but no 1 o/s can use just 1 image? Because if I had one image, and then all my machines booted to it, and it was loaded on the hard drive and stayed there, I could do what ever i wanted to those machines and no worry about the original image. Again i want nothing to do with a ris or unattended. i've been there, done that.

Post 7 by Voldemort (Account disabled) on Thursday, 20-Sep-2007 20:49:23

Hi,
I have used Norton Ghost to put an image on a machine locally, not over a LAN. It is accessible, you would have one image, and not worry about the original being corrupted.

Post 8 by Squiggles (Account disabled) on Friday, 21-Sep-2007 19:47:31

Again for the last time I feel like no one is getting what I'm saying. I don't care about local images or installs. I want 1 image and want to blast it to all my machines period.

Post 9 by Voldemort (Account disabled) on Friday, 21-Sep-2007 21:48:27

Yes, Norton should let you do that.

Post 10 by Squiggles (Account disabled) on Saturday, 22-Sep-2007 15:15:40

my queston stll emains...